May 09, 2003

Milton hosted Service Delivery Challenges -

First presentation is from Ben Strulo. "Wireless Grids To Me (and a Telco)" - his views on the important issues.

BT does not do wireless network provision but is the largest public WLAN provider. Did buy a 3G licence but they have de-merged. Airports, stations etc.

Theme: Decentralization. Ad-hoc wireless is another de-centralization step.

Divergence of incentives ("Incentive compatibility") - the solution is simple: make everyone pay? Virtual Markets - how to set prices?

Market Failures
Public good control issues with non-standardized authentication issues
Externatlities of interference
Imperfect Information - resource sharing

Are there prices that give optimal equilibrium? Could regulate ... but this is a p2p system.

The MMAPPs solution is to allow communities of peers to create, monitor and enforce "rules" of behaviour. Rules can also regulate (or even replace) prices. Could tackle fair exchange and authentication becomes defined by the group.

Service provision model

intermediary role for ISP
reputation to create trust
pre-existing relationships
protect people from the messiness of charing their friends and neighbours.

Novell Tzar

"We are in middle of the webservices bubble"

IBM drags Microsoft into the standards process. But the process has become "form and bless". Sun (libertarians?) are in revolt - they work through open interactions.

How do you stop people from becoming part of the "hive mind"? Resource sharing is "mind melding" But there is time when privacy is important to you. Think pollution of the music trading situation. There are times when you want to control to whom you connect. Need to be able to separate and reverse some resources whether you are a packet switching bigots are working on "RSVP" - when resources are constrained .... DoS or broken programmes. (Think the iff syr.edu environment).

Releasing software that needs roots privileges to install - "Its an outrage". Remember that Unix is a play on Mul-tics that creates a root privileged super-user.

E2E security points assume that people should be responsible for their own machines - but Gaynor - but e2e is not about trusting people in the middle. Madhev - security is not about who you don't trust. Reed - only if you can say "No" - if you can't say No - then you can't make this decision.

Reed - software engineers and computer scientists are neither (engineers or scientists) that follow peer knowledge but as guild members.

Oran - what about delegation models - that is what is needed?. Nist-arbackle? Reed - excellent question and a possible solution.

Jun Park - infrastructure model - the system's administrators ((("skilled?"))) or ordinary users who don't have any idea of the Reed - implications? Security is about the environment and the ability to say "no"?

Currency question - does currency need to be tied to identity? It is fairly clear that it doesn't? But what about fungible resources vs non-fungible resources. Non - fungible goods tend to

What services will be delivered?
Strulo - internet access? Community based information systems - community based. Traffic news.

Open technologies are critical to early adoption. Oran - Lans are a bad example because they have a slow incremental advantage function. But high utility without broad network effects makes it difficult. Costs for enterprises can be independent of the number of peope.

Milton - identity systems - do they have network effects? Reed - they are adopted when the resources

Steve Chapin - Crossing the Chasm - Geoffry Moore.

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